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" Even if torture works, what is the point of 'defending' America using a tactic that is a fundamental violation of what America ought to mean? "
Phil Klay
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" Going to war is a rare experience in American culture, so it's easy for simple notions to gain a lot of weight. The reality is always more complex. "
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