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" Nothing that you make in the world exists in isolation from the social and political and ecological dimensions of it. "
Trevor Paglen
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" I always start with the assumption that everything that happens in the world is actually in the world. It sounds like an obvious thing to say, but it's a very powerful methodological premise. "
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" When people understand that they are constantly monitored, they are more conformist - they are less willing to take up controversial positions - and that kind of mass conformity is incompatible with democracy. "
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" Religions have always adopted rich symbolic languages to signify the different aspects of their respective forms of faith and mythology. "
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" The most famous secret base, I guess, would be Area 51, which a lot of people have heard of as a kind of mythical place. Well, it's a real place. "
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" Engineers working in the 'black world' of classified military projects are often referred to in military circles as 'black hats.' There are a lot of jokes about the difference between 'white hats' and their spooky counterparts. "
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" Do cave paintings mean anything? Not really, but I, for one, am happy to have them. "
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