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" Oh, yeah, I'm all about ritual. "
Rashid Johnson
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" I've always been interested in this idea of a privileged life, probably because it's something I hadn't seen much of. "
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" I was going through a divorce, and I had a lot of reading I was doing, and I developed what was probably a serious anxiety problem - because I was about as poor as you can get, in graduate school, and trying to make my work and keep my head above water. "
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" My mother introduced me to more academic-minded writers, Cornel West and Skip Gates. In her library, I came across, when I was very young, Harold Cruse's 'The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual,' which is like a bible of Negro intellectuals from Frederick Douglass to Amiri Baraka. "
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" I attempted to do yoga in German, and it was not particularly successful. So at that time, I started thinking about the idea of just movement and how I could move to de-stress. "
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" The thing that turned out to be interesting about CB radios was the ability to call out in the world with anonymity. You choose your handle. Race and class become non-signifiers. "
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" What I really hoped to do with my work was to at least be able to define my relationship to race. "
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" I wanted my art to deal with very formal concerns and to deal with very material concerns, and to deal with antecedents and art history, which for me go very far beyond just the influence of African-American artists. "
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" When I was younger, I remember there was a really famous book, and it was called 'The People Could Fly.' And so this idea of, kind of like, black characters kind of jumping into space and kind of the challenge that they presented to gravity I thought was really interesting. "
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" I've always had an interest in complicating the way that we perceive the black character, whether it's the black academic or scholar or activist or black intellectual. "
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" When I was younger, I would see shea butter being sold on the street, and I was interested how people were still coating themselves in the theater of Africanism. You see that in dashikis and hairstyles and music. "
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" My father owned a small company, called Gundel Electronics, where he did community band radio and some repair stuff. "
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