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" In a way, 'Mamma Mia!' was such a left-field thing for me. "
Phyllida Lloyd
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Thing
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Nation
Debate
" In London, it's quite a rarefied activity to be on an analyst's couch. "
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London
" There's something about doing Shakespeare with a single gender, whether it is all-male or all-female, that opens up certain possibilities. You are able to throw the behavior of the men into a particular relief and be playful within a slightly larger-than-life way with it. "
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" I realized that I didn't think I could stand the psychological battering that actors have to withstand. I just felt I wasn't cut out for that kind of self-promotion. "
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" Margaret Thatcher always felt like an outsider in her party. "
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Party
Outsider
" It's the job of the artist to take something that everybody thinks they know about, they've made a decision about, they will be immovable on, and to shine a light on it. "
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Job
Light
Shine
" I worked on live studio drama, which was one weird aberration in the 1980s. I worked on the 'Battle of Waterloo,' and my job was to reload the Brown Bess muskets - the only time the audience realised it was live was when somebody leant on a button and plunged the whole studio into blackout. "
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Live
Weird
Time
" In Europe, it is not so unusual for directors to move between opera, theatre, and film, and I have at least three girlfriends I can think of who have directed in all three genres. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Theatre
Move
Film
" I think Margaret Thatcher was a superstar in this country, and I think we all felt we needed a superstar to play her, somebody of huge intelligence, passion, and power and warmth. "
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Her
Intelligence
Power
" I was given a mask of myself by Frances Barber when we opened 'Julius Caesar.' I looked much younger and prettier. Wearing it was certainly cheaper than Botox. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Mask
Myself
Barber
" Margaret Thatcher was pro-choice. She voted to decriminalize homosexuality. Was not profoundly religious. She was very liberal on social issues. "
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She
Social Issues
Pro-Choice
" If you have bad hair and you bite your nails, nobody expects that you can't direct plays. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Your
Bad
Hair
" I realised you could become fat and bald as a director and still remain employable. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Director
Bald
Become
" As a woman, I think Margaret Thatcher felt she had to be ten times more prepared than the men. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Prepared
Men
More
" When I began to direct, I discovered that I was much more comfortable than I was acting. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Much
More
Comfortable
" You can't wait for someone to discover you; you have to just get on and do it. Have confidence that directing is a very suitable job for a woman - with our gift for collaboration, listening, and reading the nuance of things. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Gift
Confidence
Woman
" If you believe that how you do your work is as influential as the work you do, then a theatre rehearsal, which is a microcosm of the world, is the perfect place to model social change because if it doesn't work this time, you can try again on the next production. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Theatre
You
Change
" I have been very lucky, and I think it all goes back to state subsidy for the arts. I gained my training and confidence and credentials in the not-for-profit world, and in England, that does not mean on the fringe of things. It means right at the centre. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Confidence
Training
Think
" To have Hollywood tell me or other women like me that we're not a market that interests them is silly. Good stories work. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Me
Women
Silly
" Directing is quite a nuts-and-bolts thing. It's a mixture of creating an atmosphere in which actors can feel safe enough to be dangerous. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Dangerous
Enough
Feel
" In the not-for-profit world, I never felt that being female was an impediment. I was, however, given my break into commercial theatre by a female producer, Judy Craymer, and women - in particular, Donna Langley, president of production at Universal - were crucial in giving 'Mamma Mia' a home in Hollywood. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Giving
Home
Theatre
" I was hellbent on going to drama school, but my mother, rightly, panicked and persuaded me to go to university on the grounds that a degree would be 'something to fall back on.' Whilst at college, I realised I wasn't good enough or robust enough to be an actress. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Mother
Me
Good
" To be invited to the Park - the greatest free Shakespeare festival in the world - is a great honor, and I don't take it lightly. "
Phyllida Lloyd
Take
Free
Great
" When I was asked to read a screenplay about Margaret Thatcher, I think I felt immediate apprehension. "
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Read
Think
Asked
" I wanted to be an actress from about the age of five. "
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Wanted
Five
Age
" I think courage is commensurate with your fear - if you lack imagination and you're fearless, that's not courage to me. "
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Imagination
Fear
Courage
" Do as much theatre as you can while you're at school. "
Phyllida Lloyd
While
You
School
" Shakespeare was writing about his time, and it was a time when women were beginning to demand a voice, demand a say in their lives for one reason or another, mainly to do with the economics of the time. "
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Voice
Writing
Beginning
" Onstage, there's a separation between character and audience; onscreen, you can go to a deeper place. "
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Separation
You
Place
" In the theatre in the U.K., women are at the very top of the tree as freelance directors. "
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Theatre
Freelance
Women